A response to Craigslist post: "I think your prices are WACK"

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Ran across this Craigslist post to wedding photographers on another photographer's blog and wanted to add my two cents.

ATTN: Wedding Photographers:)

WHY is finding an amazing wedding photographer so difficult? :/

I am a Bride who is getting married this summer and have yet to find a decently priced, exceptional, amazingly talented, fun photographer.

WHY because the word “WEDDING” is involved photographers think they can change you $ 3,000.00 for wedding photos? Oh, because no bride is going to go without so they are going to pay it, because they HAVE to. They are ripping people off for all they have! Why when you want to get married it costs you AT LEAST 15 grand after all is said-and-done? Its such CRAP!! I love all you $ 3,000.00 photographers out there but i think your prices are WACK. All your doing is hanging out at a wedding taking tons of photos and editing them.. and thats owrth 3 GRAND!!! You’re making so much money its crazy. I just wish people would be more realistic. I mean the “average” persons salary for 1 freaking month is somewhere around 3 grand. (Thats making 19$ an hour) So you’re going to take someones WHOLE MONTH paycheck for one flippen day of photos? Just because you CAN!!?????? So that maybe they will not be able to feed themselves or pay any other bills they have, right? It makes me SICK!

I know im speaking for more than just myself right now. Alot of brides out there think the same thing. & I bet all you fancy photographers wont even read this. oh-well. Maybe there are cheaper photographers that will read this and LOVE to take my photos:)

Here's some comparative figures about what I could be earning in other jobs that might set things straight for this anonymous bride-to-be and others with similar questions.

Before becoming a full-time wedding photojournalist, I held positions as staff newspaper photographer, picture editor and professor of photojournalism.

  1. One year into building my wedding photography business (after paying for my health insurance and contributing as much to my retirement as my employer used to) I make less than I did when I left my staff photographer position in 1986.

     

    If I work my buns off, this coming year I should to be able to build my business to the point where I will bring in what I did when I left my position as a picture editor in 1991.

    If I were to fill up my schedule as a wedding photographer @ $3000 a wedding, I would make about what I was making as an associate professor of photojournalism in 2006 (but I wouldn't have the amazing retirement plan).

    If I am able to become a super-star shooter and average $5000 a wedding, I will be lucky to make and put away for retirement what I would be making and putting away today had I accepted the professorship I was offered at a Big Ten university five years ago.

Most wedding photographers do it more for love than money, (but we do have families to support).

For more on how far that $3000 goes in supporting a family, see Nikki May's blogpost.

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Cindy Brown

I'm an Atlanta wedding photographer who takes soulful, quirky and honest photos ...

I'm also an adventurous traveler and all-round nerd. I love to hike with my beagle/cattle dog Roux and best friend/spouse.

I was born in Atlanta, moved around a lot--30 cities and 5 states--and then came back.

After graduating from the Art Institute of Atlanta, I took a job at asmall newspaper in south Georgia, where I photographedhospital teas, pecan farmers, and beauty queens.

I photographed a biker funeral, death penalty protests andTed Bundy while interning with the Associated Press.

While a photographer for two dailies in Florida, I photographed Ronald Reagan, a train derailment and the dedication of a screened-in porch.

An unexpected life turn took me to Vermont where I fell in love with Bernie Sanders and on to Indiana, where I edited photos for a major daily, and nerded out getting a master’s and PhD.

After teaching photojournalism at colleges and universities in Florida, Indiana and Mississippi, I returned to Atlanta to earn myfifth degree--a Master's of Divinity.

My passion for storytelling with my camera and my interest in religious diversity led my to the field of wedding photojournalism.

I have documented weddings large and small, Unitarian and Pagan, indoors and out, Christian and Muslim, in backyards and in churches. The most exotic wedding I have photographed took place in Mexico and was officiated by aMayan shaman.

When I'm not photographing weddings, portraits or corporate events, I work on personal photo projects, visit friends in amemory-care home, and volunteer at a recovery center.

Greener Photography Membership Upgrade | Eco-Friendly Atlanta Wedding Photographer

Eco-Friendly Atlanta Weddingi PhotographerI'm delighted to report that my Greener Photography membership level has been upgraded from basic to premiere. What this means is that I've implemented even more eco-friendly business practices. It also means that I am now allowed to display the lovely premier level membership badge on my web page and blog. Thanks to Thea Dodds and Dawn Hacker for founding this fabulous organization and for all they do to keep it going.

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Cindy Brown

I'm an Atlanta wedding photographer who takes soulful, quirky and honest photos ...

I'm also an adventurous traveler and all-round nerd. I love to hike with my beagle/cattle dog Roux and best friend/spouse.

I was born in Atlanta, moved around a lot--30 cities and 5 states--and then came back.

After graduating from the Art Institute of Atlanta, I took a job at asmall newspaper in south Georgia, where I photographedhospital teas, pecan farmers, and beauty queens.

I photographed a biker funeral, death penalty protests andTed Bundy while interning with the Associated Press.

While a photographer for two dailies in Florida, I photographed Ronald Reagan, a train derailment and the dedication of a screened-in porch.

An unexpected life turn took me to Vermont where I fell in love with Bernie Sanders and on to Indiana, where I edited photos for a major daily, and nerded out getting a master’s and PhD.

After teaching photojournalism at colleges and universities in Florida, Indiana and Mississippi, I returned to Atlanta to earn myfifth degree--a Master's of Divinity.

My passion for storytelling with my camera and my interest in religious diversity led my to the field of wedding photojournalism.

I have documented weddings large and small, Unitarian and Pagan, indoors and out, Christian and Muslim, in backyards and in churches. The most exotic wedding I have photographed took place in Mexico and was officiated by aMayan shaman.

When I'm not photographing weddings, portraits or corporate events, I work on personal photo projects, visit friends in amemory-care home, and volunteer at a recovery center.

David and Anne's Very Methodist Wedding: Glenn Memorial Little Chapel

I was lucky enough to be chosen to document the marriage of David and Anne this past Saturday at the Little Chapel in Glenn Memorial. The focus of this, a second wedding for both David and Anne, was friends and family. Our goal was to capture just a bit of the love, laughter and emotion surrounding the event. Thanks Kara for being such a great intern. And thanks David and Anne for making Kara and me feel like we were a part of the family.

Here are a few of our favorites:

David and Anne's Methodist Wedding

David and Anne's Methodist Wedding

Bride at Second Wedding

Bride at Second Wedding

Family at Wedding

Family at Wedding

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David and Anne

David and Anne

David and Anne

David and Anne

David and Anne

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Glenn Memorial

Glenn Memorial

Reception Toast

Reception Toast

Bride and Groom Feeding Cake to Each Other

Bride and Groom Feeding Cake to Each Other

David with Cindy at WeddingGlenn Memorial Wedding

David with Cindy at Wedding

Glenn Memorial Wedding

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Cindy Brown

I'm an Atlanta wedding photographer who takes soulful, quirky and honest photos ...

I'm also an adventurous traveler and all-round nerd. I love to hike with my beagle/cattle dog Roux and best friend/spouse.

I was born in Atlanta, moved around a lot--30 cities and 5 states--and then came back.

After graduating from the Art Institute of Atlanta, I took a job at asmall newspaper in south Georgia, where I photographedhospital teas, pecan farmers, and beauty queens.

I photographed a biker funeral, death penalty protests andTed Bundy while interning with the Associated Press.

While a photographer for two dailies in Florida, I photographed Ronald Reagan, a train derailment and the dedication of a screened-in porch.

An unexpected life turn took me to Vermont where I fell in love with Bernie Sanders and on to Indiana, where I edited photos for a major daily, and nerded out getting a master’s and PhD.

After teaching photojournalism at colleges and universities in Florida, Indiana and Mississippi, I returned to Atlanta to earn myfifth degree--a Master's of Divinity.

My passion for storytelling with my camera and my interest in religious diversity led my to the field of wedding photojournalism.

I have documented weddings large and small, Unitarian and Pagan, indoors and out, Christian and Muslim, in backyards and in churches. The most exotic wedding I have photographed took place in Mexico and was officiated by aMayan shaman.

When I'm not photographing weddings, portraits or corporate events, I work on personal photo projects, visit friends in amemory-care home, and volunteer at a recovery center.

Platinum Bridal Show at Le Fais Do Do | Atlanta Wedding Photography

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We had a blast at the Platinum Bridal Show Holiday Party at Le Fais Do Do this past weekend. We met lots of fun brides-to-be, grooms-to-be, friends and family, as well as lots of wonderful vendors. Here are a few photos from the delightful bridal fashion show. Bridal Show AtlantaBridesmaid dressesPlatinum Bridal Show Atlanta

Holiday Party Show

Atlanta Wedding Photography

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Cindy Brown

I'm an Atlanta wedding photographer who takes soulful, quirky and honest photos ...

I'm also an adventurous traveler and all-round nerd. I love to hike with my beagle/cattle dog Roux and best friend/spouse.

I was born in Atlanta, moved around a lot--30 cities and 5 states--and then came back.

After graduating from the Art Institute of Atlanta, I took a job at asmall newspaper in south Georgia, where I photographedhospital teas, pecan farmers, and beauty queens.

I photographed a biker funeral, death penalty protests andTed Bundy while interning with the Associated Press.

While a photographer for two dailies in Florida, I photographed Ronald Reagan, a train derailment and the dedication of a screened-in porch.

An unexpected life turn took me to Vermont where I fell in love with Bernie Sanders and on to Indiana, where I edited photos for a major daily, and nerded out getting a master’s and PhD.

After teaching photojournalism at colleges and universities in Florida, Indiana and Mississippi, I returned to Atlanta to earn myfifth degree--a Master's of Divinity.

My passion for storytelling with my camera and my interest in religious diversity led my to the field of wedding photojournalism.

I have documented weddings large and small, Unitarian and Pagan, indoors and out, Christian and Muslim, in backyards and in churches. The most exotic wedding I have photographed took place in Mexico and was officiated by aMayan shaman.

When I'm not photographing weddings, portraits or corporate events, I work on personal photo projects, visit friends in amemory-care home, and volunteer at a recovery center.

Maggie and Tim's Decatur Square Engagement Safari | Atlanta Wedding Photography

I'm happy to release a few of my favorite photos from Maggie and Tim's delightful engagement safari. We started our afternoon in the lovely garden behind Maggie's parents' house. The family dogs joined in the fun for a while jumping and running and fetching ... well the younger of the two did, anyway. After warming up to the photo shoot process in the back yard, we hit the big time in the front of the Decatur Courthouse, then moved to the canon and on the square. Maggie and Tim love the Raging Burrito, so we staged a few with the Burrito in the background and ended at another favorite hangout, The Brick Store.

Tim and Maggie Engagement Session

Tim and Maggie Engagement Session

Tim and Maggie Engagement Session

Tim and Maggie Engagement Session

Tim and Maggie Engagement Session

Tim and Maggie Engagement Session

Tim and Maggie Engagement Session

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Cindy Brown

I'm an Atlanta wedding photographer who takes soulful, quirky and honest photos ...

I'm also an adventurous traveler and all-round nerd. I love to hike with my beagle/cattle dog Roux and best friend/spouse.

I was born in Atlanta, moved around a lot--30 cities and 5 states--and then came back.

After graduating from the Art Institute of Atlanta, I took a job at asmall newspaper in south Georgia, where I photographedhospital teas, pecan farmers, and beauty queens.

I photographed a biker funeral, death penalty protests andTed Bundy while interning with the Associated Press.

While a photographer for two dailies in Florida, I photographed Ronald Reagan, a train derailment and the dedication of a screened-in porch.

An unexpected life turn took me to Vermont where I fell in love with Bernie Sanders and on to Indiana, where I edited photos for a major daily, and nerded out getting a master’s and PhD.

After teaching photojournalism at colleges and universities in Florida, Indiana and Mississippi, I returned to Atlanta to earn myfifth degree--a Master's of Divinity.

My passion for storytelling with my camera and my interest in religious diversity led my to the field of wedding photojournalism.

I have documented weddings large and small, Unitarian and Pagan, indoors and out, Christian and Muslim, in backyards and in churches. The most exotic wedding I have photographed took place in Mexico and was officiated by aMayan shaman.

When I'm not photographing weddings, portraits or corporate events, I work on personal photo projects, visit friends in amemory-care home, and volunteer at a recovery center.

Kate Opens Album | Atlanta Wedding Photography

I was excited to hand-deliver Kate and Kyle's wedding book today. Kate is leaving to visit family in California and I wanted to make sure she had the book to show off when she gets there. Kyle is already in California waiting for Kate to join him. Sorry I missed seeing you, Kyle! Here are a few photos of Kate opening and viewing her album:

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Kate and I attended Candler School of Theology together, so I decided to surprise her with a special gift. Here are a couple of images of Kate with the surprise accordion book gift:

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Cindy Brown

I'm an Atlanta wedding photographer who takes soulful, quirky and honest photos ...

I'm also an adventurous traveler and all-round nerd. I love to hike with my beagle/cattle dog Roux and best friend/spouse.

I was born in Atlanta, moved around a lot--30 cities and 5 states--and then came back.

After graduating from the Art Institute of Atlanta, I took a job at asmall newspaper in south Georgia, where I photographedhospital teas, pecan farmers, and beauty queens.

I photographed a biker funeral, death penalty protests andTed Bundy while interning with the Associated Press.

While a photographer for two dailies in Florida, I photographed Ronald Reagan, a train derailment and the dedication of a screened-in porch.

An unexpected life turn took me to Vermont where I fell in love with Bernie Sanders and on to Indiana, where I edited photos for a major daily, and nerded out getting a master’s and PhD.

After teaching photojournalism at colleges and universities in Florida, Indiana and Mississippi, I returned to Atlanta to earn myfifth degree--a Master's of Divinity.

My passion for storytelling with my camera and my interest in religious diversity led my to the field of wedding photojournalism.

I have documented weddings large and small, Unitarian and Pagan, indoors and out, Christian and Muslim, in backyards and in churches. The most exotic wedding I have photographed took place in Mexico and was officiated by aMayan shaman.

When I'm not photographing weddings, portraits or corporate events, I work on personal photo projects, visit friends in amemory-care home, and volunteer at a recovery center.

Perfect Wedding Guide Networking at Purple Rain | Atlanta Wedding Photography

I had the privilege, along with my best photo friend Manuel Llaneras, of photographing the Perfect Wedding Guide networking event at Purple Rain last night. If you've never been to this amazing tapas restaurant lounge, then you need to plan a trip to Duluth. It's worth the trip. Here are a few images that will give you a sense of the place:

Purple Rain | Atlanta Wedding Photographer

Purple Rain | Atlanta Wedding Photographer

Purple Rain

Purple Rain

drinks and decor at Purple Rain

drinks and decor at Purple Rain

And here are some photos to give you a feel for the event.

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Blue Sky Productions Atlanta

Blue Sky Productions Atlanta

PWG Networking Event at Purple Rain

PWG Networking Event at Purple Rain

Fun at PWG event at Purple Rain

Fun at PWG event at Purple Rain

Business Photographer in Atlanta

Business Photographer in Atlanta

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Cindy Brown

I'm an Atlanta wedding photographer who takes soulful, quirky and honest photos ...

I'm also an adventurous traveler and all-round nerd. I love to hike with my beagle/cattle dog Roux and best friend/spouse.

I was born in Atlanta, moved around a lot--30 cities and 5 states--and then came back.

After graduating from the Art Institute of Atlanta, I took a job at asmall newspaper in south Georgia, where I photographedhospital teas, pecan farmers, and beauty queens.

I photographed a biker funeral, death penalty protests andTed Bundy while interning with the Associated Press.

While a photographer for two dailies in Florida, I photographed Ronald Reagan, a train derailment and the dedication of a screened-in porch.

An unexpected life turn took me to Vermont where I fell in love with Bernie Sanders and on to Indiana, where I edited photos for a major daily, and nerded out getting a master’s and PhD.

After teaching photojournalism at colleges and universities in Florida, Indiana and Mississippi, I returned to Atlanta to earn myfifth degree--a Master's of Divinity.

My passion for storytelling with my camera and my interest in religious diversity led my to the field of wedding photojournalism.

I have documented weddings large and small, Unitarian and Pagan, indoors and out, Christian and Muslim, in backyards and in churches. The most exotic wedding I have photographed took place in Mexico and was officiated by aMayan shaman.

When I'm not photographing weddings, portraits or corporate events, I work on personal photo projects, visit friends in amemory-care home, and volunteer at a recovery center.

Joy and Matt's Wedding Album Design | Destination Wedding Photography

I'm happy to say I'm covered up in wedding album designs. I love pulling all the photos together to tell a story. Here are a few favorite designs from Joy and Matt's incredible St. Petersburg/Isla Del Sol wedding. We had a blast photographing your wedding!

Wedding Album Design
Wedding Album Design
Wedding Album Layout
Wedding Album Layout
Wedding Album Design | Transiation Spread
Wedding Album Design | Transiation Spread
Wedding Reception Spread
Wedding Reception Spread
Departure Spread
Departure Spread
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Cindy Brown

I'm an Atlanta wedding photographer who takes soulful, quirky and honest photos ...

I'm also an adventurous traveler and all-round nerd. I love to hike with my beagle/cattle dog Roux and best friend/spouse.

I was born in Atlanta, moved around a lot--30 cities and 5 states--and then came back.

After graduating from the Art Institute of Atlanta, I took a job at asmall newspaper in south Georgia, where I photographedhospital teas, pecan farmers, and beauty queens.

I photographed a biker funeral, death penalty protests andTed Bundy while interning with the Associated Press.

While a photographer for two dailies in Florida, I photographed Ronald Reagan, a train derailment and the dedication of a screened-in porch.

An unexpected life turn took me to Vermont where I fell in love with Bernie Sanders and on to Indiana, where I edited photos for a major daily, and nerded out getting a master’s and PhD.

After teaching photojournalism at colleges and universities in Florida, Indiana and Mississippi, I returned to Atlanta to earn myfifth degree--a Master's of Divinity.

My passion for storytelling with my camera and my interest in religious diversity led my to the field of wedding photojournalism.

I have documented weddings large and small, Unitarian and Pagan, indoors and out, Christian and Muslim, in backyards and in churches. The most exotic wedding I have photographed took place in Mexico and was officiated by aMayan shaman.

When I'm not photographing weddings, portraits or corporate events, I work on personal photo projects, visit friends in amemory-care home, and volunteer at a recovery center.